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why you open with thomas jefferson on library of congress. >> because jefferson changed my life. he wrote a letter to his nephew. peter was 13, 15, somewhere in that area. he was -- his mother had died, father was about to die. father went and said thomas, we will you oversee the education of my sons when i pass on? so when he comes of age he writes this beautiful letter and says in mathematics you have to learn these things. never read a book out of its native tongue because you lose too much. and then he gets to the last one for religion. and he said, when it comes to religion above all things , fix reason firmly in her seat.
question with boldness even the very existence of god. god. if there be a god she must surely rather honest questioning of her blindfold despair. that changed my life. that coupled with the fact that thomas jefferson was the man who fought the 1st war against islam when he was in office. we had the 1st 25 the barbary pirates, and he did not really understand. he was trying to understand, you know, what do these people want? he owns one of the 1st copies in english of the quran and the united states. he was a scholar. he read everything in its native tongue when he could. he tried to be as fair as he could, and he also read the entire koran. i think he gives us a good example. this is a good place to start.
we should all read the koran and no what it says. don't take soundbites. don't take this from me. we have all the notes. don't take it from me. we have gone to the original sources. it is not my opinion. you further that investigation yourself. ask honest questions not trying to prove one way or another and question the very existence of god while you are doing it. >> from your book jefferson cited islam as an example for why virginia should not have. >> and at the same time he was protecting a religion like islam, using it and saying sharia law or better word for is the islamist attitude now, a difference between islam and islamist.
that is important, one who believes -- i know great reformers of islam that want to believe that their religion is peaceful and want to have a peaceful existence. that is not what this country is all about. we don't have the combination of church and state which is what islamist us. >> you quote a notorious british islamist preacher. contrary to public misconception, islam does not mean piece but rather mean submission to the commands of a lot. >> what we tried to do here is show the people who actually do believe -- if i said to you, let's go take on the nazis and you
insisted that it was not about nationalism or socialism. you would just say these people are crazy. well, i could not get to their ideology. i would not be able to stop them because while hitler was crazy there were a lot of people that base there understanding of socialism, people in denmark are nazis, they? they were national socialists. it was that combination that brought us the nazi world. that does not make every socialist and nazi. it does not make every nationalist nazi, but you have to no the underpinnings we tried to go and find the people actually causing trouble and calling for our death" in the koran and saying, yes, we are about islam. we cannot deny what they say if you want to defeat them you have to no the. this is part of your control
series. >> we did a book on the second amendment. we did one on common core. trying to correct some of the information out they're. it is not a series that is my opinion. there is not a lot of my opinion in this. these are the facts. paperback and small so that people can carry them with them and learn the topics. >> one of the starters. >> one of the things you did , number five was america is safe. we have a court case in the book from new jersey where a judge ruled that he could
have sex with his wife even though she said no. it was his religious right to do so. the judge sided with an. we don't have to standards of law. where i live thousand seven -- outside of dallas city council just voted, and it was a five for decision. almost passed. the resolution was that we only respect american laws and taxes laws. that's it. that is almost not passable. the reason why is there is a muslim community there, some of them are muslim brotherhood, and they are setting up there own little counsel to be able to work with the people we can't
have two sets of laws. it does not work in america. that is not who we are. >> new home state of texas, an event, mohammed cartoon concept. what'swhat's your take? should that have happened? >> it is america. i'm not a fan of it. i am not doing the cartoon contest i'm an alternate freedom back. i believe we all have the right to do things. should we do it? no. she's tryingno. she's trying to prove a.that you can get killed by doing that. i think we all no that. i think the pushback on her was up seen, but i did not attend, nor would i have
attended. you haveyou have the right to do it. did you? probably not. that being said, i respect the fact that there are some things that we better wake up to which is the ultimate goal. wake up america. we talk about 51 percent of american muslims believe that they should live under sharia law. 51 percent of american muslims. one quarter of american muslims believe violence is the way to give sharia law over the constitution. if you just look at the numbers that is somewhere between 30,500,000 americans who believe that they should overthrow the constitution for sharia law.
that isthat is a problem no one is talking about. we should address those things. >> about five years ago you held a rally down on the national mall in washington. anything planned for the future? >> i do. >> and it is kind of. i am greatly concerned about a couple of things. i don't have any answer militarily or anything else. that is a mess. andand you can't export our freedom. you can bring it to people who don't want to comment on the other hand we have a genocide going on. one of the rabbis came to my office in texas. a big supporter of israel and have been crying out about the anti-semitism for many years. now thingsnow things like what happened in france are beginning to happen and people are starting to wake up.
do me a favor. i need you to not focus so much so much on what is happening. excuse me? they are coming for you 1st. what's happening in the middle east is a genocide. this time you guys are getting a 1st. i'm trying to like the jewish people up with what is happening to the christians. we have hardened our hearts, and i openly admitted regret i played a role in the divisiveness of our country. that is not good. you know, i'm currently going through. this is the only interview and i'm giving a speech tonight.
i'm supposed to not be speaking. i don't know if you here my voice is a little rocky. i've been having some issues with my voice and some other health issues for the last five years. that kind of clarifies things. may i speak again. may not have long to worker lives. were you doing? clarified. i'm trying to make up. were in a very dangerous situation where we are not seeing people as people anymore. somebody asked me this morning, what's your take on bruce jenner? i have a societal answer for that how would you feel if
you live your life the way? i don't think society knows what to say, but i think i hope that we all have compassion for the men and we all can say, i don't necessarily think is a woman i think he's a man i think he's whatever we can all look and agree and say the middle east no one season paying attention. churches are to pay attention. these are innocents children, women. the book we talk about nine -year-old girls being sold into slavery, nine -year-old girls were hundred $70. does anybody care? how about the homosexuals being thrown off of buildings ripped apart or stoned to death. a war on gays, yes with isis and he ran.
we are at the negotiating table. they can coexist with western society. not well you are killing gays, stoning women to death , crucifying children, i don't think so. i don't have a political and military answer. i do have this. we better start connecting with one another, standing up and stop worrying about your rights. let's worry about our responsibility to protect the rights of other people. let's start worrying about the person most unlike you. i went to new york i called a meeting with the head people about four months ago they were shocked. and it was uncomfortable.
don't have a lot to talk about. even though i am for gay marriage. i believe the government does not have a right to be in your life and tell you anything about marriage. in that way and for gay marriage. religiously i'm not. but it's not my decision. my world is my world. your world is your world. i sat down and said, can we stop talking about wedding cakes? how about we stand together for what is happening in russia where they are now taking the drivers license away from homosexuals and saying that is a mental disorder. how about we stand up against that,that for stand up against isis and those in iran and saudi arabia all across the middle east that stand together. so this august down in birmingham alabama for the last civil rights movement started to mom asking people
to come together of all different faiths and beliefs and walks of life that can say you know what, my political interest may differ from you. my principles are the same. stop talking about interest and start talking about principles. saturday the 29th, march in the same streets of martin luther king did. we have thousands of pastors coming from all over of all different religions and people coming from all over. and then we're going to start putting that inaction. i believe it is time for people of all walks of life to stand up and raise their hand and be counted.
the muslims were muslim enough, they gays are gay. let's start there an easy one. let stand together and just say let stand against that. >> anything significant about august 20 and 29th? quex. the anniversary. the anniversary of martin luther king's i have a dream speech. we did not pick that intentionally five years ago i announced it. five minutes after announcing the new york times to now come back, with
the king. how can we not know that? now were embracing it. >> back to it is about islam new line number two. not much different than christianity or judaism. >> dramatically different. the biggest differences it has not had a reformation. if you don't have a reformation living in the stone age. there are people that want to reform islam, but sharia law does not allow you to buck whatever the common consensus is. if all of the scholars and imams say no for this is really are then kill you for trying to reform. it sounds a christianity.
we've had our reformation. there are great muslims who want their information but it's not happen. by us tonight that there is the struggle within islam the are hurting our farmers. we are trapping them in the stone age. >> twenty to 25 books under your belt. >> i don't even know. >> what is your writing process? >> it depends. i put this one to bed the same one i put another put to bed. >> what book is that? >> right now the working title is the immortal. that's a fiction book is coming out next christmas time. this is almost like john stewart. i set the table and said these are the things i want to focus on. sorry start with the dropped
the bomb and if you don't understand that islam, isis, and the republic of iran believe that the end times are upon us, if i said that is a christian is coming back. everyone would say i'm crazy jesus is coming back, and i'm going to help them become even more crazy. jesus is coming back and i'm going to help him come back by causing chaos around the world and killing as many people as i possibly can, now i'm dangerously psychotic. but because it is a protected islamist that is saying it no one pays attention. maybe we have such low standards for the people in the middle east it is there job to bring it on us. i set the table and say i'm
interested in that want to find out the details and get the best quality you can. we put the book together. the other stylebook is one entirely done by me. that is the example, the immortal which will not be his name when it comes out. >> to a christmas time. doing great. the deeply passionate underserved a misunderstood people in america. it will recognize america in a different way. though recognizably have made a mistake.
maybe people like me in 2,002 now and under bush, very antiwar. we have woken up which is the community we serve. it's a good, solid, loving people. >> what would you like to see president obama for president whoever do about isis, boca around, al qaeda? >> i don't know. we are in such a bad state. we have -- we have bungled it so badly. i'm not sure. i am certainly not qualified enough to come to you and
say my gut is that it is at some.we are going to have to deal with this. i am offended that our military is still over they're because most americans don't know where they are, what they are doing or why they are doing it. why arewhy are we killing people today? for what? if we really mean we're going to stop isys unfortunately that means your going to have to do things like we did in world war ii. you'reyour going to have to raise the place just like we did in germany. do you have the stomach for that? i don't think the american people have the stomach for that command ii don't want to kill another person until we know what it is. why we killing people? i don't know. i did in 2002. i lost it about 2006. i am completely baffled now.
stop and bring our troops home. we're going to have to go back but only when we know and have the balls to say who the enemy really is. that is the enemy, and there is no compromise. there is no, well, they had a hard had our childhood. they are psychotic killers just like the nazis were. kill them. kill them. >> when does the bungling start? >> early on. shock and awe. trying to nation build in afghanistan. right from the start. that is not our job. you are never going to take and bring our republic to people in afghanistan who don't necessarily know what it is or wanted.
what are we doing? what are we doing? we should have gone in, got the bad guys, and got out to be the best thing america should is what we fight a war is no exactly what we doing the no exactly who we are after, what a win looks like we'll make it, make it fast, make, make walk away and go don't ever mess with those guys. we don't want to go to war and rebuild your life. you do your thing and will do ours. >> we talked to another yesterday. he said that it's his you. >> all middle east. >> i can't believe they are our allies.
that is the biggest problem we have is a country in the country as a world. would you want to be present? do you know what we stand for? i don't. i don't. i know what our constitution stands for, but i don't know what our party'sparties stand for. i don't know what our government stands for. i no what our people do. are people generally vote republican democrat and are all generally pretty good. the government seems to stand for power and money and control. that iscontrol. that is not america. we get into bed with saudi arabia on mubarak, where are our principles? where are all principles? we are going to coastghost
plane somebody, send them over to mubarak's prison to torture because we don't torture? that is insane. if you are standing they're in your love one has been ghost plane by the united states and put into mubarak's prison what do you think of the united states? we have to have principles. international interest. the national interest can change. i national interest does change all the time. my interest was to have a big stack of waffles this morning.morning. my interest right now is not so much. they change.
we are part of the problems. we are in there with a. we believe women have a right to vote and drive cars are we doing anything about it? no. who are we? >> moved to texas. >> great. love it. texas seems to be america 2,002. it's asleep. and it thinks it can whether the storm. it thinks it can -- that it is texas and so it will always be texas. i thousand people from california alone moved to texas every single day.
i had a meeting with about 200 ceos that move the companies to texas. you know what you move your company in texas, but do your employees? have you made a point to tell your employees we can no longer do business in new jersey, no longer do business in california? no. you just moved to texas. allall the employees, their like to my like texas but i really like california and will vote for the same things and fundamentally change texas. >> final question, do you expect another september 11? >> i think it's only a matter of time before we are greatly attacked. i don't thinki don't think it's going to be necessary lee like september 11. my worst fear is what happened in bedlam. that is what america should